#534266 - 01/18/08 12:47 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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Get yourself a Cummins 3.9L 4BT.
It's a 4-cylinder that can embarass a 6.5L TD when it comes to making power and staying in one piece.
http://www.4btswaps.com
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#534275 - 01/18/08 05:49 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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Cool Site !
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#534295 - 01/18/08 09:20 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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I think the issue with the emissions has to do with the low quality diesel offered in gas stations within the US of A. In my travels though Europe I was amazed to see 3 grades of diesel at gas station and only one grade of gasoline (premium-mostly used by motorcycles). If the quality diesel fuels where available in the USA, more people would be driving diesels.
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#535227 - 01/26/08 02:06 PM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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There are plenty 4 cylinder diesel's out there. My neighbor has an ISUSU 4 cylinder disel pickup that has about 300k miles on it. He uses it everyday.
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#558532 - 11/15/08 03:25 PM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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Well Cummins has a 4 cylinder and they use it many other applications, i live right down the road from Columbus,Indiana where Cummins is and there have been a few rumors floating around of them putting a 4 cylinder of the B-Series in the Dakotas. As you said would be great beacause you'd get great fuel economy along with the greast power of a Cummins planted between the rails.
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#559195 - 11/22/08 10:41 PM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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I'm curious, what is this 10,000 lbs everybody wants to tow?
the lastest tow ratings of 1/2 tons over 9000 lbs is insane.
any body towing that much with 1/2 ton suspension is a hazard.
sorry, back to subject,, If I was going to tow 10,000 lbs
I would just get the Isuzu N series, here in Canada it is marketed as GMC 3500 and up.
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#559243 - 11/23/08 11:10 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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Well Cummins has a 4 cylinder and they use it many other applications, i live right down the road from Columbus,Indiana where Cummins is and there have been a few rumors floating around of them putting a 4 cylinder of the B-Series in the Dakotas. As you said would be great beacause you'd get great fuel economy along with the greast power of a Cummins planted between the rails.
While the Cummins 3.9BT would probably make an excellent 1/2 ton pickup engine power wise, if I'm not mistaken, it has no balance shaft. Between that, and the 2 strong pulses per crankshaft revolution, vibration (both engine and torsional) would be hard if not impossible to tame, at least to the liking of the typical 1/2 ton truck buyer.
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#559244 - 11/23/08 11:13 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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I'm curious, what is this 10,000 lbs everybody wants to tow?
the lastest tow ratings of 1/2 tons over 9000 lbs is insane.
any body towing that much with 1/2 ton suspension is a hazard.
sorry, back to subject,, If I was going to tow 10,000 lbs
I would just get the Isuzu N series, here in Canada it is marketed as GMC 3500 and up.
I doubt most 1/2 ton buyers ever tow that much weight but if nothing else, it's bragging rights for the manufacturers.
The components used on todays half tons are what was used on some 3/4 tons in the 90's, so the stuff is definately better than it has ever been in the half ton segment.
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#559287 - 11/23/08 09:52 PM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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heavyduty
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I once repowered a forklift with a 4BTA 3.9 Cummins.
replaced a six cyl naturally aspirated Perkins. the Perkins
was about 120 HP if I remember correct. the Cummins was 130. the highest rating at the time. It worked quite well but you are right about vibration, in a forklift ok but a pickup truck, only for a diesel nut. the fan bracket fell off once and something else, maybe it was the fan braket again.
The 3.9 does have balance shaft.
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#560263 - 12/08/08 08:03 AM
Re: Why doesn't someone build a 4 cylinder diesel
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Itīs already build, but you donīt have it in US. In Brazil we have Ford Ranger 3.0l Power Stroke 160hp (163cv) at 3800rpm and 280lb-ft (38,7 kgfm) at 1600rpm - payload capacity 2336,8lb (1060kg)-, Toyota Hilux 3.0l (160hp), Chevrolet S10 2.8l (138hp), Nissan Frontier 2.5l 170hp at 4000rpm and 297,3lb-ft at 2000rpm - payload capacity 2215,64lb-, Mitsubishi L200 Triton 3.2l(162hp). All this midsize trucks can make 28mpg city and 35mpg highway. Top speed itīs about 115 mph for Nissan, Ford, Toyota and Mitsubish; and 109mph for Chevrolet.
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